06 December 2010 @ 12:17 am
[Japanese]: I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?! :(  
HELLO!!!!!!

Yes, I'm still alive and I'm finally back!!! Sorry for the long hiatus, but as most of you know I had lots of things to do these past few weeks.
NOW I'm finally FREEEEEE!!!! :D
Time to be happy right? NO!!!!!!

People who follow my Twitter probably already know this, but today the JLPT (Japanese Language Proficiency Test) was held all over the world (and in some places it's not yet time - stupid time difference XD)
I've never taken the test before. Basically because the lower levels (previously 4kyuu, 3kyuu now N5, N4, N3) don't get you anywhere, but the higher levels (previously 2kyuu, 1kyuu now N2, N1) are considered as "business level Japanese" and can open you doors jobwise and stuff.
They changed the whole testing system for the first time this year, so all old study material and all knowledge from old tests won't help as much anymore.
Although I already passed the second highest level in mock tests over a year ago, I still haven't taken it until today.
Why? Because it's expensive and so I wanted to make sure that I would be able to pass it.

I missed the application deadline for the July test (also something new, only in Japan you can take the test twice a year now - previously you only could take it in December) and that's why I took it today instead.
I've already started preparing for N1 (the highest level and my ultimate goal) anyways.

I took this test because I was pretty sure that I could pass it.
Why I was sure? Well, I took tons of mock tests that introduced the new testing style and typical questions and all. (I also took the real N2 from July!)
My overall average was 81%.
For N2 there are 3 sections: (my average mock test percentage)
Vocabulary/Kanji (~82%)
Reading (~66%)
Listening (~92%)


As you can see Reading is my weakest section, so I worked especially on that one in the last few weeks.

The reason why I wanted to make sure that I can pass the test is that it costs ME quite a lot of money and time (and nerves).
The test fee itself is only around 50$ (5000yen), but the next testing location is quite far away so all in all for 10+h of travelling fees and a hotel for the night I had to pay around 200$ (20.000yen). This is completely CRAZY!!!
But as I live in nowhereland there was no other way! :/

And what's more is that right on Friday I got SICK!!! Hurray, go me!!!!
I haven't been sick ever since that long and strange stuff in July when I had fever and was sick one whole month!!! Everybody around me (= all my coworkers and students) have been sick lately it was a wonder that I was able to stay healthy for so long, but oohhh what a bad timing :(
I felt like crap, went to work on Saturday and after 8 long hours got my ass into one train after another (4,5h of train rides). At night I finally arrived at my hotel and wanted to sleep, but as I was such a cheepstake I got the cheapest roomtype which was right next to the elevator. It was so loud that I couldn't sleep well. Of course my cold did the rest :/

Anyways, as I still had some time in the morning I decided to do some sightseeing around the hotel to calm my nervous self down a bit.
Here are some photos I took:



Super nice weather today and there are still some autumn leaves on the trees, yay ^-^



And they shine nicely in the sun (*__*)



Color variation (*_*)



Just thought that was REALLY cute!!! I guess with that the kids are not afraid of the dentist? XD



Can you believe it's already December when you see these photos?? ^^;

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The fresh air was nice and the temperature perfect for walking around a bit :)



Even ugly buildings can look nice with some color ;P





There was a temple close to my hotel.



And I had it all for myself (*_*)



Quiet. Good for calming me down :D





I'm glad that I got some nice photos at least!!! 10+h in a train must be worth something, right? ^^; .... *sigh*





That was a bad omen already. People who follow my journal since before I came back to Japan know that I once really hated those red gates XDD





Right behind the temple there was also a small shrine :D





And then I was on my way back to the hotel to get my stuff and ...

...it was about time to get ready and go to the bus stop. Yeah more public transportation!! As if 10h were not enough yet -__-;
And what happened then, I didn't expect!!!
Millions of people, extra buses had to come!!! I thought there might be some kind of festival until I realized that all those tons of Asian looking people were not Japanese. They all had the same goal: the JLPT testing location!
I never thought that SO MANY people would actually take the test!
Then I thought that maybe a lot of them are just trying the lower levels for fun or whatever - especially if they live close.
But in the end there were 2 floors with around 40+ classrooms filled with N2-test-takers ONLY1111!!!! Not sure, but I think there were way over 1000 taking the test!!! And that was only one tiny testing location out of MANY in Japan!!!! UWOAH!!!!!
The majority of them were Asian: Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, Vietnamese etc.
Crazy, where did they all come from???

I tried to find a free spot (quite difficult!) and ate a little bit.
After a looooooooooooooooooooooong time of waiting we were finally allowed to go into our testing rooms.
I was in the very first row (x___X) Kowaiii!!!~

Well, to make a long story short:
The vocab/kanji section was okay. Some vocab I didn't know and that although I'm already way into N1 vocab, but oh well (guess that's what the new test style does - we can't expect the same vocab as for previous tests anymore)
I guess I did quite okay there (70-75%)
The listening was super easy as always and I'm confident that I have around 90% as always.
What killed me was the reading. Not only a little bit but completely!!! I'm not even sure what happened! I practiced so often. But at that point my concentration was gone. In a room with too many people it was getting too hot, my fever also got higher and I really needed to drink some water but we weren't allowed to. Furthermore we had quite some rule breakers in our room. One of them sat right next to me. They got the "yellow card". That also distracted me. I read the same sentence again and again and just couldn't focus anymore.
At some point I figured that I wouldn't be able to finish on time. Panic!!! And from then on all went KABOOM! I had to guess the last few answers as there was not time anymore.
Whatever. I KNOW that I have way below 50% in the reading section and with the new testing system being under 50% in ANY section will result in failing the WHOLE TEST (even if you have 100% in the other sections!!)

It's not a "uhm I think I messed up a bit there" thing, it's I ALREADY KNOW I FAILED!!
99,9% that is. With the new system the score for each question is not set yet and depends on how well everybody did! So I still have a 1% chance that all the other test takers sucked just as much as me which gives me a chance of passing it. Hahahaha [insert desperate laughing here]


I'm trying not to think about all the money, time and nerves I've invested in this test. And all in vain :(
I know I can do much better than this!
And without wanting to sound arrogant (can s.b. who failed N2 really sound arrogant anyways?) I KNOW that right now I could pass vocab/kanji and listening of N1 without any problem and if I study the grammar, then that one, too.
But I probably would even fail N3 reading in a real test situation again.
I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo angry at myself!!! I did so much better in my mock tests ;o;

Why did this happen???? *cries*


Oh well. After another 4.5h of train rides and all. I finally came back home.
It was a crazy weekend:
Friday - got sick
Saturday - 8h at work / 4.5h in trains / no sleep in loud hotel
Sunday - 30min bus / trampled by 1045234 of people / 4h of test taking / 30min. bus with too many people / 4.5h of train (with too many people in it at first) / 30 min. bike / supermarket / my apt. shower / typing this

I will drop dead into my bed as soon as I hit the "send button" here (x___X)
And the worst? I think NONE of the 2342352342345 test takers had such a long way!!! I was the only one in the hotel, too! I was the only one with a huge bag! All of them got of at the next big train station stop whereas I had another 4h of train rides ahead of me :(

I'm not going to take the test again. Not N2.
And I'm too scared of trying N1 anytime soon. Probably not in Japan anyways. I just hope it's not as crowded in Germany.

Everybody, please let me hear about your JLPT experience? Not only today's but in general!
How many people were there? Did you have any rule breakers?
Congratulations to all of you who passed 2kyuu or 1kyuu. You are awesome! (If we use the old grading system then I would have passed, too, though ;o; ....?!)

The funniest thing ever was that quite a lot of the people taking N2 in my room didn't seem to understand what the examiner said to them XD
Also, I was pretty much the only one who could speak fluently with one of the bus drivers.
Well, but who cares. I suck when it's actually really important. I deserve to have failed the test - that's how much I suck, I guess :(

It was a life experience today. Definitely. Not a good one, though. But, yeah.

That's enough for today.
I should feel crappy but I feel refreshed at the moment. Probably because all the pressure is gone now :) And I'm finally free to do other things again. Feeling like an idiot to have sacrificed so much of my free time on Japanese studies in the last few years, though.

I went to Miyajima when the autumn colors were most beautiful a few weeks ago. Please look forward to some awesome photos which will be up soon.
Also, I still need to post the surprise I keep talking about so often XD
But, it's a busy week, so we'll see.

P.S.: Oh and I don't wanna hear any "OH, I'm sure you passed blah" comforting sentences, k? I tell you I really, really completely failed the reading so unless they change their grading system I have no chance :(
P.P.S.: Actually I wanted to treat myself and finally watch the new Harry Potter in cinema, but now I'm not sure if I really deserve this :/ ....

Beloved bed here I come
 
 
[mood]: refreshed
[music]: SADS - Boukyaku no sora
 
 
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[identity profile] ex-ninchu.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 03:25 pm (UTC)
O no! =/ Let's really hope they all sucked >_<

I did 2kyuu last year and 4kyuu in 2007, and it always were quite some people (don't know how many). No rule breakers, it all went smoothly. I barely made 2kyuu btw, I failed at Vocabulary (50 points or something), aber das steht ja nicht auf der Urkunde und die Regeln waren noch nicht so streng. x_x"
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
Ich habe gehört, dass die scheinbar in Japan auch viel strenger sind. Vielleicht hat das damit zu tun, dass wir den meisten Ländern zeitlich voraus sind und so viele Asiaten ja die Tests kurze Zeit danach online stellen.
Die neben mir hat offenbar von mir spicken wollen. Ein anderer war nicht der, der auf dem Test Voucher stand usw. Voll krass.
Insgesamt waren die auch so streng, dass ich bei jeder Bewegung Angst hatte, die könnten das als Regelverstoß werten. HORRIBLE!!! ;o;
Und dann noch mit Fieber, da machen die Nerven irgendwo nicht mit. Aber das ist keine Ausrede. Ich hätte das Reading trotzdem schaffen müssen.
Jetzt weiß ich wenigstens wie ich den N1 anzugehen habe.

Ich ärgere mich halt nur über das rausgeschmissene Geld.
Und nachdem ich gesehen habe, wie sehr die alle mit der Masse an Menschen dort überfordert waren, frage ich mich, ob es nicht besser wäre anstatt den Test zweimal im Jahr anzubieten ihn stattdessen in JEDER Präfektur machen zu können, also mehr test locations anzubieten. Das wäre für einige von uns dann auch billiger :x
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(no subject) - [identity profile] ex-ninchu.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 05:28 am (UTC)
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
That's what I wanna do. Because even if I failed the test it doesn't change the fact that I've been studying like crazy the past few weeks, months etc.

Well, the grading system is still not set, so nobody really know what will happen and exactly that is my only chance (or that I was good/lucky with guessing this time XD *sigh*)

Now I finally understand what other people kept telling me: the JLPT doesn't display your true ability
Some people who cram for the test only, but can barely use Japanese can pass a high JLPT level and vice versa.

Thanks *hugs* :3
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[identity profile] killmelover.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
Wow, I'm sorry the test was that difficult. I think it was mostly bad luck that you were sick, and everyone does worse than their usual abilities in such stressfull situations. I passed N2 (well it was L2 at the time) last year (2009 dec) in Paris, and I was really surprised by the crowd too. There were a lot of Asian people there too. I managed to get through the whole test but I was really tired from lack of sleep, because the day before I looked at some mock tests for the first time and only had like 10 hours to try and cram as much as possible in my head.... which was impossible of course.
But somehow, even though I hadn't done any studying for this test, and I thought it was pretty difficult (even the listening section, even though I'd done a bit of L1 in class before and thought it wasn't so hard), especially the reading part - there's NO time to read all the texts and then the choices are so close it didn't make any sense to me, I still passed, so there's like a small chance you haven't done so bad, right ?

What was different from the old test by the way ? I'm going to try N1 next year (and this time I want to study seriously because I'm really crap at kanjis and reading - I read as slowly as a snail even in my language I have to say..... not enough training I guess), and I'm worried about the new test too. Your story doesn't really inspire me. O__O *scared*

It's really too bad they don't offer more locations to take the test, especially if there are so many applicants... Not everyone lives in a big city. :/

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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:16 am (UTC)
At least I know what to expect now. I wish I took the old test, too, because with the old grading system I would have passed. But who knows, right? :/

Actually you have more time for everything in the new style test. And when doing N2 mock tests I never had a time problem, so I didn't think about it at all. Now I know that in the future I must finish like 30 min. before the time limit in my mock tests or I will have a time problem in the real test situation again :(

Oh, if you want to know what's different I recommend buying one of the new N1 books!! I also got N2 books which explained how the test did change and which had tons of examples in there. It really helped me a lot! :)
That I failed so much was due to a lack of concentration and other circumstances, so you shouldn't worry so much :) There's no way that you'll be as unlucky as I was and those books really prepare you well.
Thanks to them there was no surprise at all when taking the real test. The reading wasn't more difficult than in the preparation books, I just couldn't focus at that time *hits self*

They really should! Like for each prefecture there should be a testing location in the capital or something!! That would save me so much time and money - and not only me, I guess ;o;
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[identity profile] stonerxd.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
i did 2kyuu today also and i died for the reading section too. pretty much guessed my way through. XD ohwell i'll try again next year, or maybe go to japan in june next year to try again. lol. XD
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC)
Actually the reading section was not difficult or anything. I just completely lost focus. It was extremely hot in that room and my fever got higher and all I could think about was that I will die if I can't drink something right now. So no wonder I lost focus. I guess in summer it would have been even worse x___X

I'm not sure when to try again. N1 then anyways. It just costs me too much money. If only they'd set up a test location closer to where I live :(
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[identity profile] darlingpoppet.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 03:53 pm (UTC)
お疲れさまです!\o/

Aw, of course you deserve some Harry Potter! No matter the outcome, you must have studied really hard and you came all that way just to take a test. Even if it ultimately isn't worth the stress, you deserve a break for making it this far! <3 Plus HP was really enjoyable (I'm such a 大ファン so I would think that anyway, HA!)

But wow, I can't believe you had to travel 4 hours and rent a hotel just to take the test! o__o I guess I should feel grateful about my 40 minute, 380yen train ride, even if i had to transfer 3 times :P

I took N2 as well. It didn't feel very difficult, but I hardly prepared at all so I was going by the seat of my pants most of the time... LOL I am such a bum! Ahahahaha but now that you mention the new grading system (I almost forgot about that!) I probably failed the test too, LOL! I had a hard time with the reading as well XD; I didn't really study too much since I had my last Japanese class, so even though I could read all the kanji, I forgot what it some of the words meant and so I was going kind of cross-eyed by the end. I noticed that I can understand the gist easily but not the small discriminating details that you need to answer the questions accurately. So at least I could understand my weakness! Also it drove me nuts that I understood 99% of the listening but there would always be one little detail that I missed or forgot so I never knew exactly which option was the right answer and i'd be doing eeny meeny miney mo with two of the options. Frustrating!!! I think I would be more confident if I had practiced more :P

Anyway this is my second time taking the test in Japan (last time it was the old test) so if I don't pass this time... I dunno. I might just start studying N1 materials for the sake of my language skills and if I feel like it, take the test once I think I can pass (in which case i'll be sure to do lots of practice drills!)
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[identity profile] darlingpoppet.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
oh i forgot to answer some of your other questions though XD;

there were lots of Chinese/Korean/other Asian kids at my test site too, and it was that way for me last year as well. It just goes to show that more Asians study and travel within Asia rather than somewhere else :) There were about a hundred kids in my room, and I was probably 1 out of 5~7 white people AND the only girl in that group. It was that way last year too, LOL! I guess it's cool, but I'm also an easy target, because I'm two for two now that a Chinese boy has asked me out during the break time, ROFLMAO! I had no idea the JLPT was the place for single people to find dates XD

I didn't have any rule breakers in my room. You must be "lucky" because I've never seen anyone misbehaving during a standardized test before! I guess that's good though, it must have been so distracting. What rule did they break? :O
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(no subject) - [identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:25 am (UTC)
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[identity profile] realistic-squid.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 04:09 pm (UTC)
I was too afraid to take it! My Japanese teacher from high school (I just graduated last summer) encouraged me to take 2kyuu, but I don't think I'm that good. I would have to study a lot, and since it's my first year of college and I need to focus on school, I decided not to.

I'd be proud of you for taking it! I get scared with things like that.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:24 am (UTC)
I think I was too scared/nervous about the whole thing, too.
Mainly because I knew it's a rare opportunity as it just costs me too much money and time to take the real thing. So I knew if I fail this one it's the end for me.
Maybe that's the reason why I got sick right before the test.
Oh well, but what matters is the result in the end. Nobody cares if I was sick that day or whatever.
And when s.b. is really good but sucks when it matters, well then ... that also shows a lot about that person's ability, I guess :/

If you live close to a testing location I think you should just go for it to see and experience the real thing once :)
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[identity profile] nfr.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 04:48 pm (UTC)
Ooops! I deleted my comment because there was a mistake and posted again but it does not appear! :S

I'll try once more, sorry if I troubled you! >__<;;;

I'd like to cheer you up saying that there are possibilities of you passing the exam, but you seem pretty confident that you failed, so I'm very sorry for you.

You've made a lot of effort (working the day before, the so-long train+bus trip, staying the night not resting well and you were not feeling well, either!) so I think that if you fail this exam it's because of bad luck and not because of you. You don't have to punish yourself for something that you couldn't control! I'm sure that in other conditions you'd passed it without problems (maybe the reading part would be a little more difficult for you, but you'd definetly passed it).

I'd like to send you a lot of energy and positive thinking, and don't give up the N1 level because of your experience this time! Although I'm not anyone I'm very proud of you! *hugs a loooot* ^__^
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:27 am (UTC)
I'm not sure if that's really true. I don't think that it was just because I was sick.
Anyways, now I know what to expect and can prepare accordingly. There's no looking back. Next will be N1.
I just hope they'll set up some more testing locations here ... hopefully one that is closer to where I live ;o;

Thanks so much dear *hugs* :33333
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[identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 05:10 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you had such a difficult experience. It really sounds like a lot was stacked against you, especially being sick and also having to travel so far :-( I hope it's not as bad as you suspect.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC)
I know. I really thought that somebody wants to keep me from trying or passing this test with all the stuff that happened. But in all honesty, I'm not sure if I would have passed when not sick, so whatever.
It was an interesting experience and now I know what to expect. N2 was supposed to be a testing phase for the real thing: N1
I just hope they'll set up some more testing locations so that I don't have to travel so far anymore :(
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http://carry18.livejournal.com/[identity profile] carry18.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
Oh sounds like a big shitty day ><

Well next time will be better ne?
But its a pitty that you spent so much money >____<~
Reading is the most difficult part anyway ~ I can totally understand that lol~ *sucks at kanji BIG time*
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:30 am (UTC)
Make big shitty dayS out of it and yeah, here we go ;o;

Wenn's halt nur nicht so teuer wäre, dann wäre alles nur halb so schlimm ;o;
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[identity profile] alekth.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 06:37 pm (UTC)
I was only doing N3 today... been studying Japanese for about a year and it seemed hard! Not the listening, but the rest.
Reading might have been the hardest for me as well, but in a way (esp. when I dedicated some more time to a specific question) I could squeeze some logic out of it even without completely understanding everything. Time limit was the problem there. While vocabulary had quite a few totally unfamiliar words and kanji, and turned into some wild guessing at times.

Still, if I fail it, I think it would be borderline, so not planning to sit for it again (never did the lower levels either). N2 next December... maybe I'll have fewer problems with it really, because me and languages tend to go somewhat exponentially - once I know enough to read some stuff comfortably, I start doing a lot of extra stuff for fun (in this case manga, video games), so it goes faster. I already watch most anime and drama without subs, so my listening is a lot better than reading and grammar :/
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:32 am (UTC)
I didn't say that the reading was difficult for me. I just lost my focus and that's what killed me in the end.
And don't say "only" N3. Way to go!!! :D
Yes, the time limit was a problem. In all of my mock tests that has never been an issue. I didn't expect the real situation to be so different! Now at least I know what to expect when taking N1.

I hope you're right. I don't know what other languages you've studied so far, but Japanese really takes time for me :(
I already studied English, French, Spanish and Latin and those were all not as difficult as Japanese (for me).
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[identity profile] meister-quitte.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 06:37 pm (UTC)
Alleine durch deine Mühe und Stress mit der Hinfahrt, Krankheit usw. hast du dir ALLE Harry Potter Filme mit einer großen Packung Donuts verdient!!! ^^b

Passiert ist passiert, genieß die kalten Tage und den kommenden Schnee. Und laß bald von dir hören! ^^
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
Donuts klingt gut! ;o;
Ja, aufgeben werde ich deshalb nicht ;)

Hoffentlich bleibt der Schnee noch ne Weile aus. Davon krieg ich in meinen Winterferien eh noch genug ab ;)
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[identity profile] babymoss.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
How much does the test cost? Just curious. :/
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:34 am (UTC)
Not sure about other countries but the test fee itself is around 5000yen (50$US).
But you also have to pay extra money for sending your application and stuff.
And if the test location is not around the corner you also have to pay a lot of money in order to get there. In some countries there's not test location at all, so people have to fly(!) to a country where they can take the test.
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[identity profile] bf-nightingale.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
Autsch, ich kann mir vorstellen wie du dich fühlst!D:
Und was meine "Erfahrungen" angeht... ich glaube nicht, dass es dich jetzt noch tröstet, wenn ich dir sage, dass ich den Nikyû erst beim dritten Anlauf geschafft habe? (Ok, für den ersten Anlauf hatte ich einfach nicht die Zeit und Energie intensiv genug zu lernen, beim zweiten Mal hatte ich so einen Hass, weil ich mit nur ein paar Punkten vorbeigeschrammt bin, und beim dritten Mal war mein Gefühl nicht halb so gut wie beim zweiten Mal, aber ich hatte wohl Glück und hab's trotzdem hinbekommen.
Wie ist es denn bei dem jetzigen N2? Beim alten Test hat Glück schließlich manchmal auch eine wichtige Rolle gespielt, und wenn es jetzt beim N2 genauso ist, besteht vielleicht doch noch die Möglichkeit, dass du einfach Glück hattest? Nicht, dass deine Gewinnchancen jetzt phänomenal stünden, aber in dem Fall zumindest besser als nur 1%...? Wie auch immer, ich wünsche dir einfach nur noch Glück, etwas anderes kann man ja auch nicht mehr machen.:-\

Wo warst du eigentlich? Und das ist ja wirklich blöd, dass es in deiner Ecke überhaupt nichts gibt. In Tôkyô musste ich zwar erstaunlich "weit" fahren, aber dennoch gab's dort ja mehr als genug Prüfungsorte (auch wenn man die sich nicht selbst aussuchen durfte).

Und sicher hast du dir den HP-Film verdient, wenn nicht jetzt dann nie! Und sei's nur als Aufmunterung, aber du hast gearbeitet wie eine Wahnsinne. Dass du ausgerechnet jetzt krank geworden bist ist ja nicht deine Schuld. Dass man nicht die perfekte Konzentration hat oder sonstwas schief läuft, dass genug zum Risiko eines solchen Tests leider auch dazu, aber das alles ist kein Grund dich auch noch selbst dafür zu bestrafen, ganz im Gegenteil!

Wie auch immer, gute Besserung!óò
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:37 am (UTC)
Ich bewundere dich für deine Hartnäckigkeit!!
Ich werde den N2 definitiv kein zweites Mal machen. Das war aber von vornherein klar, da ich einfach nicht so viel Geld habe.
Ich versuche mich dann lieber mehrere Male am N1.
Nachdem ich gesehen habe, wie überfordert die gestern mit der Masse an Leuten waren (Bus und Bahn) frage ich mich wirklich, warum sie anstatt den Test zweimal im Jahr zu veranstalten nicht lieber mehr Orte zur Verfügung stellen, wo man den Test ablegen kann. Wie wäre es wenn z.B. jede Präfektur ein Testzentrum erhält??? Dann müsste ich auch nicht soooo weit fahren ;o;

Also bei den mock tests hatte ich nie Glück gebraucht. Da konnte ich die kompletten Texte lesen und hatte trotzdem kein Zeitproblem. Ich weiß wirklich nicht, was genau da schief gelaufen ist, aber wenigstens weiß ich jetzt, worauf ich beim nächsten Mal achten muss.
Ja, also sagen wir statt 1% eben 2% (1% falls alle genauso schlecht waren wie ich und 2% falls ich sehr gut geraten habe). Ich rate in der Regel aber eher schlecht :(

Ich schreib dir ne PM über den Prüfungsort, ok?^^

Danke *hugs* :)
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(no subject) - [identity profile] asahifirsa.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 02:49 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:40 am (UTC)
[identity profile] hananaki.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 07:28 pm (UTC)
Just came back from N4.At least now it's all over and we cal all finally relax.GO WATCH HARRY POTTER,I will definitely do so in the next couple of weeks.Even if you didn't pass,you certainly deserved it and you can always try again.
Here in Greece we were like...150 ?It wasn'ty even crowdy.And for N2 and N1 even less of course.I know at least one person taking the test for each one of the other levels as well so I'll just tell you that I heard from everyone that reading was hard as hell.The only easy part in all of the levels was the listening.I was not confident about it but now I believe that it may be the best I've done.Good luck to us all...and there is always next time.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 03:41 am (UTC)
That's right. I'm really happy that it's finally over :D So much pressure in the last few days ^^;

I heard that in my homecountry (Germany) there weren't so many people either. I guess I'd prefer to take the test in an environment with few people.

Actually I didn't think the reading was difficult. I just lost my focus and then my whole time setting was messed up and panic killed the rest of my brain ;o;

Yah, there is always next time. If only it wasn't so expensive to go to the test location ;o;
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[identity profile] venia.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 08:49 pm (UTC)
I faced the N3 today. It was a complete FAIL. XD Not my level after all. But I studied very much, so I'm glad this exam made me cover my lacks of knowledge. I plan on getting better and better!

YOUR PICS ARE BREATHTAKINGLY AWESOME AND YOU ARE INDIRECTLY CONVINCING ME TO VISIT JAPAN ON AUTUMN INSTEAD OF SPRING. *__* THE LEAF COLORSSSSS ZOMG.

cough.

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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 04:36 am (UTC)
Yes, at least the exam helps us studying things we wouldn't have otherwise, I guess :)

Thank you ^-^
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[identity profile] pearlsphere.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 10:29 pm (UTC)
With the new system the score for each question is not set yet and depends on how well everybody did! WTF! that sounds like the test is still on beta phase? -.-P.S.: Oh and I don't wanna hear any "OH, I'm sure you passed blah" comforting sentences, k? I tell you I really, really completely failed the reading so unless they change their grading system I have no chance :(
Here I was holding a lil of hope :(. I know having a test result that says you passed is very important (having taken a proficiency test myself a few weeks ago) but you have way more experience in life that most of those test takers, so YOU don't suck ok? I'm pretty sure a score doesn't say anything in an interview if you can't support your level. I'm pretty sure if you had a job interview right now, you'd get the job straightaway! There were definitely some factors that played a role that day. You were sick and exhausted. That alone says it all. Hopefully next time you decide to take it, it will be a completely different environment. This was definitely an experience and even though you feel it was in vain, I'm pretty sure it wasn't for all you learned from it, so smiiiileeeee *hugs*
And Japan in autumn really has amazing colors!! :D thanks for sharing the pics with us^^.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
Thanks a lot, dear *hugs* ^-^
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[identity profile] maikeru-desu.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
Regardless of the content, taking a test like this is a pretty trying experience just of itself. Think of this as a practice test for your eventual passing of N1. Now you know what to expect ;)
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
I try, yes. After all I now know what to expect :)
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[identity profile] jimjamjenny.livejournal.com on December 5th, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)

It sucks that you were ill and got no sleep!! I hope that you have better luck if you decide to take it again!!!

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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC)
I'm sure I would have failed even when being healthy. At least I know now what to expect :)
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(no subject) - [identity profile] jimjamjenny.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 08:43 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:33 am (UTC)
[identity profile] kevinsensei.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC)
about watching the new HP
Regardless of how you did on the test, you totally deserve to watch the new Harry Potter! Do something nice for yourself and cheer up! (^o^)
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC)
Re: about watching the new HP
Haha. Yah, I guess I will. Thanks :)
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[identity profile] appaku.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 05:57 am (UTC)
Stopping in a little randomly from the Learn_Japanese group, hello!

First off, you have my sympathy for the exhausting experience. I couldn't sleep for fear of snow and things preventing me from getting to the testing site 2 hours away and woke up feeling sick, but at least I felt a lot better before taking the test! There also were not as many people taking it in Chicago. There were only three classrooms for N1 and mine only had about 25 people in it, and the proctors were pretty laid back, and even cracking jokes--certainly different from the no-nonsense proctors I had last year for 2-kyuu! There were also a lot of Chinese and Korean students here, but what also surprised me was the range of ages. There were a couple kids who looked like they were in middle school, and in my room there were a couple of old men. Still, it doesn't anything like the testing center you were at!

Also, we didn't need 50% to pass each section, did we? According to this page, you only need about 50% over all, and about 33% in each section: http://www.jlpt.jp/e/guideline/results.html

That being said, though, I will not be surprised whether I pass or fail, and I feel like it could go either way. That doesn't mean I won't cry if/when I find out I failed, though. XD

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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 01:33 pm (UTC)
Hello there! Thanks a lot for your comment, highly appreciated :D

Wow, that's interesting to hear!
Yah, it was definitely a scary and extremely strict situation and I think it was not only at my testing site, but it might be like that in Japan in general?! :(

Hm. That's sounds better, but to be honest, I'm pretty sure I also don't get the 33%!!! I really completely failed! Unless my guessing skills were extremely good and luck was on my side (which wasn't the case if I look back at what happened lately). Anyways, thanks for the input :D
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[identity profile] amvn.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
Man I hate when they change the grading systems >_< If it helps, I did awfully at my statistics exam last week, which will probably ruin my average score for my masters as it was pretty decent until recently XD Don't beat yourself up though, these things happen to many people (I know it has with me anyways...) and it's always worst the first few days (or weeks perhaps). You'll get new chances, and I know you're awesome at Japanese, plus at least you know you studied hard :) I myself have struggled really hard with concentration problems all my life, so I have to study 3-4 times as much as the average student, yet I still often get worse scores than them. So yeah, life is definitely not fair but it's still not the end of the world. I have faith in you ^___^

And I'm REALLY looking forward to photos from Miyajima!!! :D
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:37 am (UTC)
I'm also not sure if the new grading system makes that much sense. Unlikely, but let's say somebody gets 100% in 2 sections and did very poorly in the third section then this person will fail the test whereas s.b. who just barely gets 50% in each section and is clearly weaker than the first person would pass with that grading system. Completely stupid if you ask me - but the grading system seems to be still in beta phase anyways as it just started this year anyways x___X

Thanks so much!!! *hugs* ;o;

I'm sorry to hear that you seem to have similar problems than me :(

You should. They're awesome ^-^
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[identity profile] arisha.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 08:28 am (UTC)
That's crazy that you saw people cheating! I've taken the test three times (always in Vancouver, Canada) and I've never seen anyone cheating, or heard anyone's cell phones ring, or anything!

I wrote the N1 this morning and I think I should've gone for the N2 ... I did a ton of guessing. I also feel like I failed although I'm somehow okay with it? But like you, I was surprised to see how many people were writing the test! The three morning levels only took up six classrooms, so we were definitely not as crazy busy as your testing location, but I was definitely not expecting to see so many people taking N1!

Thanks for posting about your experience! I always want to read about other people's JLPT experiences. :)
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
Although I don't really wanna say this but it seems that all the rule breakers were Asian people. I don't know if it's more common in Asian countries or if they're all just desperate because they need to pass the test in order to stay in Japan.

Wow, awesome!!
After my bitter experience I'm not yet sure if I wanna try (and spend a lot of money again) next year, but if I do it'll be N1 in December I guess x___X
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[identity profile] youlover.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 01:47 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that you were sick and had to take a 4~ hours trip in train. But I've heard you need less than 50% in each part to pass, so you may have successed after all! ^.^ The same I thought last year, when I took the former 3 kyuu (N4 now). My weakness has always been the listening part and I thought I failed the exam due to my inability to understand the dialogues, but in the end I passed (and I received my certification the day of my birthday! XD).

This year was the worst scenario ever: I was going to take N3, and when I was in the airport this friday, all of a sudden air traffic controllers got on strike and my flight was cancelled. I tried to buy a new flight for saturday, but it got cancelled as well T.T In the end, I couldn't make the exam because there weren't more available flights that day... after paying 60€! T^T I was so mad these last two days... but I don't want to repeat it next year. I'm going to wait at least two years and make sure I know everything for the N2.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:22 am (UTC)
Yah, something about 33% right? But I'm pretty sure that I don't even have that unless my guessing skills were super good ;o;

I'm so sorry to hear about that! It must be crazy back home in Europe right now with all that snow :(
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[identity profile] asahifirsa.livejournal.com on December 6th, 2010 02:34 pm (UTC)
Not much of a comfort, but I heard from others who took the test that the reading section was especially difficult this time around.

I did the JLPT2 in Budapest. I drove there the day before (4h in the car) and spent the night in an absolutely terrible "hotel". The bed was so wasted that you'd roll out of it if you did not hold onto something. I had planned to learn before the test but had no time, so I only had a test book with an 1kyuu and 2kyuu test in it. I did the 2kyuu and then checked the things I didn't know and that was it. I was so tired from driving that I slept, even though quite badly. Next morning I got up early only to get lost in the streets of Budapest and I made it just in time. It's held in an older university building that's a bit like Hogwarts with all those spiraling staircases, only smaller. There were around 20-30 people in my class room, I don't remember how many there were all in all, but my guess is around 500 people maybe taking the test? Lots of them students from the University of course. I did the best I could on the test and didn't really expect to pass. One evening of learning? I was really surprised when I did pass though :) Close, but who cares :)

For the JLPT1 I drove to Budapest with my mom. We spent the evening shopping and had a much nicer, but still cheap hotel with nice large single rooms (my mom snores). I did the 1kyuu test but I was way too tired to actually do much else. So I slept, quite well actually. The test location was pretty much just across the bridge but due to all those one-way streets I had difficulties getting to it, but finally found a nice parking spot. I got some food and drink and then went up to the University. It was basically pretty much the same way as the first time around. I looked at the Kanji and Grammar section and thought that with maybe 1-2 weeks of learning I could have aced it. It was actually quite easy, if I had learned anything. Listening was easy and I think I did quite good on reading as well, but grammar was terrible. I just went with my gut feeling there. I tired to find the slip but couldn't find it. I know I failed grammar and Kanji/vocab the last two not too badly. Listening was good, reading was at least a pass. All in all not too bad but not enough to pass.

I intended to try again the following year, but new job, etc kept me away from learning and trying. Then they changed the system and as all my books are for the old one, I decided to wait and see how it all changes, maybe buy a few new books in time and then see how it goes. I don't really feel that inclined to actually do it. The JLPT2 is absolutely sufficient for pretty much everything I ever applied for or thought I'd like to apply for. I might still try it, but as I have barely read or listened to anything Japanese in over a year... I forgot a lot and learning all that anew... will take time and a preferably a job where I can actually use Japanese at least now and then.

Watch the movie. You did your best. There's nothing to blame yourself for.
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
I heard a lot of people saying that the reading was difficult. I don't think it was extremely difficult, though. I just lost my focus too easily and next time I definitely should start off with the reading as long as my concentration is still up.
As stupid as this might sound but I think what killed my brain in the end was really not being able to drink anything for over 2h (and having a fever didn't really help either).
For N1 the test time will be even longer, so that will be a tough one! :(

Why did you take the test in Budapest??? O__O;

Thanks for sharing your experience ^-^
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(no subject) - [identity profile] asahifirsa.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 10:50 am (UTC)
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[identity profile] dgm-allenwalker.livejournal.com on December 7th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
(@3@)
Aaaaaaa it's okay ;o; This is the first time you took N2. Unlike 2kyuu, this one's a bit harder than the actual 2kyuu, so far I've heard online.

I'm studying for N2 to take next year (as I've said the same last year and the year before orz) and I am pretty much prepared for the surprising parts. Every day I read a sentence or two on Japanese sites with enough vocabs and kanji I need to improve on. I'm confident in reading and I'm pretty sure I will feel lost and confused like you did in the reading section (^^;; We all panic and all orz but in the end it's a lesson we all must learn:

Drink chamomile tea before the exam (+__+)/

Otsukaresama deshita~
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[identity profile] chochajin.livejournal.com on December 9th, 2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
Re: (@3@)
Yeah, seems like it. Plus the N2 has different questions and all. For 2kyuu there was years of experience and knowledge from previous tests, for N2 there's not really anything yet :(

Good luck!!! At least you can use 3 N2 tests to practice by then ^-^

I will try N1, just not sure when .... July next year is definitely too early, so maybe December, but I really don't know yet.
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